When karma strikes twice
At 6:13 PM EDT on October 26, 2006, Danny Harold Rolling took his final breath. Florida’s most notorious serial killer since Ted Bundy was executed by lethal injection for raping and carving up five college students in a ghastly spree that horrified and terrorized the University of Florida’s campus in Gainesville back in August of 1990, just as the fall semester got underway. Each one was murdered with a hunting knife. Some were mutilated, sexually molested and put in gruesome poses. One of his victim’s severed head was placed on a shelf, her body posed in a seated position.
Just before his execution, he confessed to the November 1989 murders of a 55-year-old man in Shreveport, Louisiana, his 24-year-old daughter and her 8-year-old son.
One of his victims at UF was Sonja Larson, a freshman who was killed along with her roommate in the apartment they shared. Her goal was to become a teacher. On that fateful night, she and her roommate, Christina Powell, went to a local Walmart to buy a few things. Danny Rolling was a drifter who just happened to be in the store at the same time. He followed the women back to their apartment and attacked them in their sleep.
Her brother, Jim Larson, who lives in Orlando, said, “He confessed to killing five people. He cut their heads off, then played with them. He did the worst things you can possibly do to somebody…”
During the trial, he was so shocked by the details that at one point, he curled into a ball on the floor and sobbed. He might have never moved from that spot had it not been for his wife, Carla. She cradled him as he cried and sat with him during the remainder of the trial. She convinced him that evil had not infested the entire world, despite it touching so close to home. She was his guide and mentor; his beacon of hope and strength.
Fast forward seven years. Carla Larson got up on the morning of June 10, 1997, to go to work as a building engineer for Centex Rooney Construction Company. The project, a resort called Coronado Springs, was on Walt Disney World property. It was an ordinary day until she left for lunch and never came back. She went to a nearby Publix supermarket to buy grapes and strawberries when a small time convict named John Huggins kidnapped her in the parking lot, drove to a remote field, and strangled her, partially burying her in a shallow grave and covering her with leaves.
What did Jim Larson do to deserve this? They had a one-year-old daughter together. It was her idea, but he didn’t want to bring a child up in a world where murderers like Danny Rolling stalked innocent victims. After extensive counseling, Jim found inner peace and their daughter was born. They had bought a small house in the suburbs of Orlando, in College Park. They installed new locks and a home security system. They bought a Rottweiler. Carla drove a big Ford Explorer. Jim made sure he did everything he could do to keep his family safe.
John Huggins was a Sanford landscaper who had been in and out of trouble with the law most of his life. He was on vacation with his estranged wife, Angel, and their children, staying at a hotel directly across the street from that Publix. In broad daylight, he punched Carla in the stomach, forced her into her Explorer, and drove away, never to be seen alive again. Two days later, her nude body was found, partially clad in a beach towel. She was badly decomposed after only two days in the hot summer sun, but one of the medical examiner’s photographs suggested the possibility of a pre-mortem sexual injury. In other words, rape, without all of the details of the autopsy report. At the time, Dr. Sashi Gore was the Chief Medical Examiner for Orange and Osceola Counties. A different Dr. G back then.
I distinctly remember this murder. It’s funny how the mind plays tricks. After his arrest, John Huggins looked like an ordinary guy to me, unlike a murderer, but then again, what is a murderer supposed to look like? Someone pleasing to the eye, like Casey Anthony or Ted Bundy? When Jim Larson was interviewed on TV, he acted so unemotional and flat, he became a prime suspect in the minds of viewers. He’s hiding something! I even hesitated to believe him because of his indifference. He talked to the media, never shedding a tear, and never showing anger or sorrow. When he spoke, it was insipid, with a prosaic stare. Law enforcement officials were so perplexed by his strange behavior, they asked him to take a lie detector test, just to see if he was somehow involved. Of course, his only involvement was the incredible love he felt for his wife. It lasts to this very day. The murders of his sister seven years earlier, and now his wife, had completely drained him.
On the afternoon of the murder, Carla’s white Explorer was seen speeding away from what turned out to be her temporary grave, along the Orange-Osceola county border. Huggins was trying to patch up his broken marriage. He and his family had been staying in motel and hotel rooms mostly around the Melbourne area where his wife’s mother lived, before coming to Orlando. Angel, his second wife, later told police that her husband was gone at lunchtime that day and returned sometime later, all sweaty and nervous. She soon left with the children to stay with her mother, Fay, leaving Huggins behind.
Later that day, he arrived at Fay’s house driving a white SUV that matched the general description of Carla’s. It was a rental, he said. Although he and his wife were in the process of a divorce, they continued to stay together in the coastal area until her sister, Tammy, arrived to visit. During that time she and Huggins began a relationship. What happened next was something I remember because it was so obvious what this was all about.
Kevin Smith, who lived nearby, was a friend of Huggins. He had agreed to let him keep the SUV at his house for a few days. On the evening of October 26, police received a phone call that an SUV was engulfed in flames in a vacant lot near Kevin’s house. Instinctively, most of us knew what it was, and a subsequent investigation proved it was Carla’s and it was set on fire intentionally.
On the following day, seventeen days after Carla’s murder, Tammy returned to her home in Maryland with John in tow. Shortly after they left, Angel watched America’s Most Wanted, which featured Carla’s murder. She had wondered where John got the SUV and never believed his story. She called the show and reported that she suspected her husband of the murder. As a result of that call, investigators conducted two extensive searches of Fay’s house, but were unable to find anything incriminating. Angel and her mother searched, too, and one day while getting a can of bug spray out of the back yard shed, Fay noticed a screwdriver on top of an electrical box. On a whim, she unscrewed the lid, and found jewelry inside - jewelry that was later found to belong to Carla, including her pear-shaped diamond engagement ring.
John Huggins was arrested in Maryland and extradited back to Florida. After his indictment in front of an Orange County grand jury, he requested a change of venue, which was granted and transferred to Jacksonville in Duval County. On February 3, 1999, Huggins was convicted of first-degree murder, carjacking, robbery and kidnapping. During the sentencing phase, Jim Larson told the jury that, ”One night Carla and I were sitting on a bench outside her dorm room. We were just talking. Carla got up to do something. She walked a few steps and turned around and looked at me. It was just a moment. But when our eyes met, it was as if our souls touched one another. I smiled back at her. I felt so good my eyes filled with tears. I loved her so much. We set our wedding date for Dec. 1, 1990, after her graduation from college.”
After considering the aggravators and mitigators, the jury recommended the death penalty by an 8-4 vote. The court agreed, and John Steven Huggins was sentenced to death. Ironically, Danny Rolling and John Huggins were on death row together. Two murders unrelated except for one common thread - a man, two women and two families who did nothing in life to deserve this. Neither did Jim and Carla’s daughter, a mere one-year-old at the time, much too young to sin, and much too young to know anything about bad karma.
This is the end of PART ONE. Where am I going with this? Wait and see. The answer will come this week, when I weave it all together with what we are witnessing today in a case that has so much national exposure, it dwarfs the magnitude of Carla’s murder in scale, but certainly not in importance.
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Reader Comments (97)
OK, now, how do I properly link the above? TYIA
Yup, Karen, there's such a huge influx of outsiders in this state, it's tough to find native Floridians.
I am going to see if I can edit your comment to make the link work. Believe me, this new site is still very much a work in progress.
It is an interesting article, and although I had seen the video before (here somewheres I think) I hadn't picked up on Casey's voice saying (as though quoting Caylee): "I...KILL?" but sure 'nuff, there it is at 33 seconds in, clear as day. And I do think Dr. Glass's assumption of Caylee's actually trying to say "I kiss" seems likely correct. The almost total lack of affectionate interaction (the hide-n-seek stuff doesn't count in my book as affectionate) is disturbing too. Very thought-provoking.
I agree, there may be some truth to Caylee's interaction (or lack of) with her mother, but at the same time, some people are camera shy. In other words, the person with the camera is intimidated a little and they don't open up as much as they would if they were on the other side.
Karen C~~I watched the video of Caylee eating, what looked like a piece of dry toast and she had that little sippy cup. Apparently Casey was taking the video and there was no interaction between Casey and Caylee, not a word spoken. I am not sure why she filmed Caylee under the tray of the highchair. Other than Casey romping on the floor with Caylee and someone else taking the video, I did not see any video where Casey even spoke to Caylee. I did see one when Cindy took Caylee and called her Casey but then corrected herself and said Caylee.
We will never know how much abuse Caylee suffered at the hands of her sociopathic mother when they were alone. I think Dr Glass made some good call in her analysis.
Why would the person with the camera be intiminated? We are talking about a mother here who is filming her child. You can see Caylee reaching out to Casey and possibly trying to get some sort of reaction from her mother.
Snoopy- It's on the link I tried to put up above, or I suppose you can go to Dr. Lillian Glass's website. What I saw was actually on The Caylee Daily (where they picked it and the article up from Dr. Glass), and from there you can clearly hear Casey saying "I....Kill?" at 33 seconds in. I hadn't heard it either, until the posting TCD has. Honestly- listen to that one and you'll hear it too. Def. in response to the sounds Caylee is making...
The only thing I meant was about some people getting tongue-tied when they get behind a camera. I know when I first got mine, I didn't know what to say while I was videoing. In Casey's case, maybe she can't walk and chew gum at the same time, only it's talk and tape at the same time. She had absolutely no problem posing for a camera, but not when she was behind it. Other than that, yes, there seems to be no interaction. All I'm saying is it could POSSIBLY be from other things, too. In videos where she appears with Caylee, there is plenty of interaction.
Imo, Dr. Glass fails to include many photos, videos or whatever else that depict a positive view. Her selection fits exactly into all negative decisions about Casey. Sometime soon it would be nice to read her take on the rest of the pictures, in which, as body language goes, appear to be a normal and acceptable parent child relationship.
You know, Dave, I took a lot of pics and some video of my son when he was that age. I was constantly verbalizing right along with him- "Oh, look at that piece of ribbon! Don't put it in your mouth!" That's why you get these expensive things- a specific project(s) and/or a new kid. And I had zip real experience with these things at the time. And Casey never shut up- and why does that be the one thing out of her mouth in a 3 minute+ video? I say- Hmmmm....
Dave~~when you made your videos, you did some fine adlibbing, just like an old pro. I recall when you filmed that old house out on Brackenwood, you clearly said, "you wanted it, now you got it." I may add that you sounded a bit gruff. It was a hot day and you probably was all sweaty and on the verge of heat stroke but you came thru just to appease one of your MOST faithful contributors. In all insincerity, I found your adlibbing very natural and it added a personal touth between you and the ones you made the videos for.
Interaction between the camera person and the one being filmed can come across as very affectionate or cold. I guess we all view thing differently.
I guess we see it differently, but as New Puppy said, there are images and videos that display much happier moments. All I'm saying is that it's not always as it appears or John Larson would have been guilty, too. Believe me, a lot of people thought so. Where are those happier moments that every single blog professional is afraid to examine? What would they be saying about Larson? That's why I made that point very, very loud and clear. Taken separately, video footage of him in 1997 was very damning. I wonder what the professionals would do with it today without all the facts.
The picture from underneath COULD have been that Casey was waiting for Caylee to peek down from that direction. I have plenty of pictures and videos of my children and grandchildfren with no interaction verbally. It is the best way to view THEIR personality, not necessarily one responding.
Caylee appears to be anywhere from 10 months to 1-1/2. A video like this is about the baby not about the noises of the one filming trying to get a child to do something so it comes out the cutest thing ever. A child this age makes all kinds of silly verbal. In the later example where she was older. "you tired, papa" quite a difference! I would like to find that there may have been some positive and good moments in Caylee's life instead of every second being horrible.. Do I need forgiveness.
Dave, I had already commented and it went flying somewhere, so if two appear, pick the one that
shows me in the best light, if possible. :-)
Dave~ ~since there are alot of videos/pictures where Casey and Caylee are interacting affectionly, I would love to see them. Can you or New Puppy point me in their direction? I did see one where Casey, Caylee, and Cindy were in the kitchen trying to feed each other a banana. I did see some pics of Casey and Caylee together with Casey looking directly at the camera with a nice toothy grin.
I know there are a few people who think Dr Lillian Glass is biased. I find her opionated but she does pick up on some pretty obvious things. I will give her credit for that.
I don't remember this particular murder(s) but I'm waiting with baited breath for the next chapter of your story Dave. Certainly when we have serial killers they deserve the DP. I'm not sure Casey does though and I think the jury will vote for life.
Dave you could write a book. You are there in person for the court sessions, you know the players, you know the area. Why not give it a try? I would buy your book before someone elses! and I want mine autographed too.
Snoopy, I don't know how to link to other things. Guess I could learn, maybe Dave will help out with the other pictures. I have seen them, but exactly where? So if I can't put up, will shut up! lol
I would like to have known how any pictures of Caylee would have been analyzed had she never been murdered and her mother on DP for it. I may have said this, but I keep losing my comments to the wind. In taking pictures of a child, those without verbal interaction give the best of the child's personality, rather than just the "adorable " gestures and smiles one gets when being prompted. I can only thank Almighty God that one of my babies were never murdered because surely I would have done it. I have one where I am holding my 10 month son screaming with an earache I am trying to comfort him and he is fighting pushing away from me depicting me as a child abuser.
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I know that this is still off topic and not related to this particular post. While awaiting Part 2, things have been fairly quiet in here. I am going to post the video that Dr Glass had on her latest post. I cannot hear Casey say anything at all. I think some hearing Casey say, "I kill" is a figment of their imagination. I do find that Caylee does not speak that well. I cannot understand what she is saying and she seems to be slow in speech development.
Video of Caylee
Well, no wonder there's confusion! That one is a different video, Snoopy- that is the one shown on the top of The Caylee Daily page. The one I'm referring to, and that Dr. Glass is commenting about, is the one towards the bottom of the page, in a red border box, before the comments area. It is labeled, I think, "Strange Breakfast" or some such. Now just you check that one out and you will see exactly what I'm (and she) is talking about....
Dabg- I wish I could just insert the link... Woe is me...
My fault anyway, as I should have specified. Actually, don't know quite why TCD put that at the top since that's not the one being referred to in their own post!
Karen C~ ~I am going to send you an email on how to post a link in here using html code..
New Puppy, you don't need to put up or shut up. We all view things differently and have opposing opinions. That is what makes life interesting and not dull, if we all agreed on everything and thought alike, we would come across like a bunch of smiling idiots.
I seldom agree with Love Pumpkin. LOL
Or it might be easier to just go to Dr. Glass' own blog:
drlillianglassbodylanguageblog@wordpress.com (I do believe.)
That is the one she's analyzing, almost frame-by-frame, on her own site. TCD people confused a lot of other folks, too, by putting both those up at once, so I gather from reading the comments there. The other is the one where she's wearing pigtails, very cute, but I see what you mean about her lack of verbal skills there...
I'm not saying I'm disagreeing with Dr. Glass, but I refuse to put all my eggs in one basket. To me, this is somewhat similar to Nostradamus, meaning all of his "predictions" come true after the fact and never before. In Casey's case, there is so much news out there it's over saturated. Suppose that video was analyzed with NO knowledge whatsoever of the actual circumstances, would the analysis remain identical? That's my point, nothing more, nothing less.
Bless you Snoopy! Gotta go to work now anyway- but am looking forward to seeing what you make of the "strange breakfast" video. Yes, off topic, but until Dave gets the "rest-of-the-story" up on this one, well...
I'm rather easily distracted anyway- like you didn't already figure! BBL
FROM DR. GLASS:
Here's the first one:
Caylee Anthony’s Body Language In Disturbing Video Indicates Emotional Neglect by Casey As Casey Speaks The Words “I Kill”
And the latest one:
More Body Language Analysis of Caylee Anthony Indicating Frustration When Ignorned by Alleged Videographer Casey
New Puppy ~~I am going to send you the html code on how to put in a link via Dave... he can f'wd it to you as I do not have your email addy. I am sure that Dave wont mind you practising in Open Forum. After a bit of practice, it will come natural to you.
Karen and Dave....mail en route... bbl
Karen C~~I heard it as plain as day, "I kill." Omg, it sent chills through me. I watched that video before and never picked up on that. I wonder exactly when that video was made. Caylee appears to be about almost a year younger than that final video on June 15th.
Snoopy, Thank you, When I was hot and heavy in to arguing points back maybe a year ago, I should have learned. Dave did send your help and I have told him I don't know if I want to learn and have to prove something. LOL It seems I just like to mouth off a personal opinion most of the time. Thanks to others I still find facts. I want to ask Dr. Glass what she thinks of taking pics of our naked babies but I don't think I should take the chance since I know how to get my toe stuck in a crack. LOL. Anyway, thank you again, I will try to work with it, and see what happens.
New Puppy... Practice in Members Only, on the other blog.
Dave, I know this is off topic on this post, but do you think that Judge Perry is going to let Roy Kronk's past be admitted into this trial, and do you think his lawyer will be successful in getting Judge Perry to deny the motion for having Mr. Evans as a witness?
Gee, Mary Jo, those are good questions. I don't know, but my guess would be that the judge will allow it, but he might limit the questions based on relevancy. About Evans, I do not think the judge will force him to testify for the defense. He is Kronk's lawyer and he has client/attorney privileges. Baez knows that.
That is definitely what she is saying. To me it almost seems like Casey is trying to make it sound like Caylee's voice when she says "I kill". That is what I thought anyway.
Seems like you're all onto the fact that Cindy nurtured and Casey sat/watched. Casey was the nanny...
I guess the most telling moment I've ever seen yet was that jail video where Casey says "that little girl" when talking about Caylee. It spoke volumes. I've never heard a parent describe their own child that way before or since.
I have to agree with Snoopy. Caylee has poor verbal skills for a child who is going on three years old. She appears to undestand well enough, but I can't make out a word she says.
It bothers me that in the videos I watched (which I believe were recorded by Casey) there is no discernable interaction. It looks like Caylee tries on the breakfast video and on the coloring video to engage Casey, but eventually gives up when she is met with no response. Correct me please if I'm wrong, but this doesn't look normal to me. Wouldn't it seem more natural if a child were attempting to speak with you to try to at least say something back? Oh, well.....
Dave, I read here frequently although I comment seldom, but today I just have to speak up. I think "When Karma Strikes Twice" is the best literary effort you've produced to date. I am totally engaged and very anxious to read Part II. Rare is the author who can impact me to this degree and leave me wanting so desperately for more in only fifteen (if I counted right!) paragraphs. If this is the quality of prose you are capable of, then you most certainly should consider a book. You've spoken with dignity about subjects that could have been merely sensational and given renewed life to events that may have faded from our memories or maybe (like me) never knew at all.
I hope you won't be offended and will accept what I have to say in the respectful spirit in which it is intended, but if you do decide to write a book about the Caylee Anthony case, please don't include your experiences with the nut-cases you've had to deal with. I know you have been nearly devistated by attacks that are unfounded and appear to have originated somewhere on the lunatic fringe, but don't, PLEASE DON'T include them in the story. If you feel they must be publicized, perhaps the answer is to write your experiences about them once they have been brought to a successful conclusion. I think they detract from the obvious talent you have.
Thanks for hearing me out.
COL, I absolutely agree with your last paragraph in Dave's writing a book. Please do not glorify those who as Col expressed are somewhere on the lunatic fringe, unless you write a second on your experience of your Battle with the Beast.
While Ive been following the case since it happened, I only started reading your blog after the shinanigans with Judge Strickland. I would gander, though you have been attacked, you have also gained a great many more fans as well, including me!
In addition, I also read the comments on your blog, a rarity indeed. I am struck at your attentiveness and manners, especially in these interwebz times.
Really, keep up the good work. I am anxiously awaiting the next!
Since I never comment, and may not again, allow me to qualify that I follow these sort of cases because of the humanity they reveal. We all have to live with things we don't like, can't change, and are painful. Some show us how to keep on living when it does not seem possible that life can go on. I believe in the DP, but only for the worst of crimes. It is a debate where to draw the line, but some would not even have the debate. One of the things that make us human is our ability, and desire, to see things from someone else's shoes.
Do we know for sure if Casey is the one behind the camera on the Video's of Caylee/ Here is an interpretation of the "I Kill" The voice is raised at the end as asking are you saying "I kill"?
If it had been a statement I would think the sound would have been dropped at the end. I kill.
Dave's likely in bed and I'm sure he would want you welcomed Brookinnoco, so I'll wave for all of us.
New Puppy, yup, I have no doubt whatsoever about it being Casey with the camera. Cindy interacted plenty with her beloved little grand-daughter, couldn't shut up if she had wanted to, actually. that's Casey, I'd lay $ it's her in both. The "I...KILL?" is Casey's inappropriate interpretation of what Caylee is saying (trying to)- the general subject is much on her mind- remember all the skull and death imagery (not to mention the glorification of Self) in all those Photobucket images? It is on her mind, and so she hears/sees it everywhere. IMHO!
Well understood points Karen C. Especially regarding the imagery, photobucket images.
This reminds me of the video of Caylee in the bath, I don't recall if there is any specific words spoken, but little toddler Caylee is reaching towards KC and is obviously rebuked - She suddenly gets a look on her face, like she had been verbally slapped. It always made me tear up.
Then there is the video of Caylee coloring, trying to engage the photographer until she finally just gives up. And more of the same behavior in the other breakfast video.
Poor Caylee.
I've got to agree with you, cereusle. There seemed to be a real distance between Casey and Caylee in that statement. That speaks more volumes than a video. A video can be interpreted different ways, but a cold statement is distinct. It's what she said, not what she said.
Hi, COL - I don't know enough about 2-3 year old's verbal skills to say anything at all, so I'll take yours and Snoopy's word for it. I wonder, if the allegations are true about Caylee being intimidated by her mother, that she would revert back to an infantile state in speech and mannerisms as a form of self-protection. I don't know what went on in her head, and I sure don't know enough about what makes a toddler tick.
I'll tell you, COL, I am very flattered by your critique of my latest article. A little praise here and there never hurts and your assessment is greatly appreciated, believe me. Now, I've got to make sure my second part is just as good, and I hope it is. That's what I'll be working on today.
About the trolls, no, I wouldn't give them any ink in the book, but it's something worth mentioning because they are the unfortunate byproduct of the inherent anonymity of the Internet. What is it about those sorts of people who would praise God while thrusting painful verbal spears into the hearts of their intended victims? Do they walk the earth and treat people like this in real life, or is it just a sickness that permeates the online world? That any of them would mention God in the same breath is a sacrilege. Mostly, anything I write will be about the case itself, written from the perspective of a blogger. Whatever I say about the trolls will be nothing more than a very damning aside. I certainly couldn't mention any of them by name because they don't have any. While Florida has Open Government in the Sunshine laws, they epitomize the exact opposite and keep their lives closed, too afraid to open up and stand behind their words, phonies with no backbones.
Thank you so very much.
Hi, broookinnoco - Thank you for your very insightful comment. I certainly am glad you continue to read my posts and the comments from many very adept people. I try to remain attentive. What transpired between myself, Judge Strickland and the defense is one for the history books on this case, but there's a lot more to the story than I am willing to share until after the jury comes back with a verdict. Meanwhile, I sure hope I can continue living up to your expectations. To know people have faith in my work is very important to me.
A big welcome to all the new people here!
Ocala Attorney Joins Casey's Defense Team
It doesn't say if this newset attorney for Casey Anthony is working pro bono or not. I have lost count of how many attorneys she has had working for her.
Court documents show Dorothy Clay Sims will appear as co-counsel for the defense. According to her law firm's website, Sims focuses on direct and cross-examination of medical experts.
Scumbags getting what they deserve. Sometimes murderers do have a certain look or body language--like a predator animal. You can see it in their eyes, very dark and intense. And also in their manner like a deceptive persona that is co opted,fixed or put on, if you look very closely. Their deceit just comes out and they can't hide it even if they have a great personality and great looks--it is something that is just there that you can sense if you are open to it.
[I agree, Merl, but, unfortunately, it's mostly missed until it's too late - it's after the fact. None of Casey Anthony's friends sensed anything, and even after her arrest, it was a tough sell. She seemed to be a loving, doting mother. With Huggins, no one thought he would reach the level of such a heinous crime; none of his friends or relatives. What makes a guy like him snap? If not caught, would he ever do it again? He was no Ted Bundy in that respect, but we'll never know, thank God. Casey, however, is a free woman. Would she kill again? I doubt it because she is free of her mother's domineering personality. Gone is the hatred, jealousy and rage.
I guess it's easier to see a person's faults, especially if they are a little off, but murderers are tough to spot. I wrote about another one - James Hataway:
"I can make them disappear..."
I met the guy. He used to hang around a bar I liked to go to when I was a drinker. He was weird, but did I think he was a murderer and, quite possibly, a serial killer? Heck no. It never crossed my mind.
Hey! Thank you for your thoughts. I really appreciate comments because it's nice to learn what others think. It makes me a much better writer and more in tune to the pulse of people all around the world.]